


That's why I think he refused daemonhood, he never really cared about chaos in my opinion, Horus' way just let him be what he was made. Even after the HH Kruze lamented what his legion became and what he became, but he couldn't change his nature, which was why he was suicidal. The 8th were designed for terror tactics. He knew this, when Sevatar pointed it out. It was his first thought and never gave any other thought to bringing law to the planet. It was a conscious decision to torture etc. He thought to bring order he'd need to make a message. He started killing and torturing within a very short period of time, he lived off eating dogs, he was never actually wronged even as a child, they couldn't catch him. We can never know what either would have been like if they had landed in more nurturing territory, like Guilliman or Dorn. He is similar to Angron in that the world he landed on ruined him before he had a chance. He had watched the people around him and realised this before committing to a course of action. JamesY wrote: DC he grew up in an environment where that was the only way people dealt with each other, and where murder and death was the only action that had any impact. He also didn't have to enjoy it if he was doing it for a purpose.

I don't think the world had influenced him.

Thing about this is that he started killing and torturing from the get go. Personally, with all due respect to ADB, I still think Lord of the Night is one of the best 40k books ever written, and definitely the better take on Curze. That seems more to be a reflection of the environment he was raised in, rather than a genetic predisposition. I'm not sure that I agree that the Emperor intended him to be a torturer and sadist, rather than Him being willing to use those qualities after finding him. The Night Lords trilogy and heresy stories don't seem to have taken quite the same approach, showing more his temperament as a consequence of the knowledge he has of the future. He beliefs one thing in one scene, then the opposite later on. JamesY wrote: He was portrayed that way in Lord of the Night conflicting visions and beliefs having driven him to insanity.
